supposedly conservative issues like the debt ceiling and fiscal cliff. he is still right in there with more of the highbound tea-party issues. whether it's rand paul or paul ryan for 2016 and i know people want to throw up when they start thinking about 2016 already, but there's a new generation of republican leaders that are jockeying for position and he is a moderate on certain issues. >> i want to put up your magazine cover, and i want to put up your international cover as well. this is -- this is the international cover here. marco rub yo and the next america. no savior mention here. >> we chose that cover line, because, yeah, the switching that is going on right now. we did not think that marco rubio was a internationally famous figure, the way that he is a nationally famous figure. and we wanted to highlight the long-term demographic trends that is taking place in the america. where it's more multi-culture society. one more finally tuned to immigration. that is something that "time" can do as a global brand. >> we will go with that explanation. >>